The Carly ship actually really bothers me, especially when they insist on a kiss scene or a sex scene.
It’s not because I’m a Bethyl shipper (though for me, I’m more comfortable with that one) or that Carol “looks” too old for Daryl.
It bothers me because it’s like most people believe the only…
I will never understand when Certain fans refer to Carol and Daryl ‘s relationship as mother & son .
It makes zero sense.
Daryl and Carol look to be around the same age. Shre doesn’t treat Daryl like a son. Do fans not remember 3.1 on top of the bus. ( Mothers do not make sex jokes towards their sons ).
Daryl’s relationship with beth is that of a uncle / niece.
I think Carol looks closer to Merle’s age. Daryl looks closer to Maggie’s age. He definitely looked much younger in the beginning. If Maggie and Beth can be siblings, Daryl and Beth can too. Either way, age has no part in it.
The reason I saw Daryl/Carol’s relationship as mother/son is because the first blossoming of their relationship was about Carol being a mother, a mother lamenting the child she lost. The whole focus of Daryl’s interactions was “Carol is a mother.” Not “A woman I’m interested in”.
Which I like because it makes his actions more selfless.
And I disagree. Mothers definitely do make sex jokes with their sons. Especially sons that aren’t actually blood related. The bus scene is actually added to my belief because that’s exactly what that scene portrayed to me.
Carol flirting with Daryl and Daryl brushing it off, as if embarrassed. Like a son being flirted with by his playful mother. “Moooom, stop! People are looking!” “Oh come on, don’t you think I’m a MILF?”
There are mothers and sons who do flirt around playfully like that. It’s cute and silly.
And then there’s the episode where I definitely thought that’s where the writers were taking their relationship. The episode where Daryl finds her in the Prison when they thought she was dead. It’s right after the scene where Daryl talks about his own mother to Carl. It fits. Carol is his mother replacement.
And THAT’s why people say they’re mother/son.
This could still be wrong, but that’s what I see and like to see more of. I’ve already laid my case for that.
My real focus here is to show that it does make sense…even if it MIGHT be wrong. It DOES make sense to come to that conclusion with what we’ve seen in the show.
No way to me Daryl doesn’t look like his the same age as Maggie or glen he looks at least 10 years older than them.and he looks like he could be Beth’s father.
And Mothers and sons do not
Firit with each other making sex jokes that would be leaning towards incest.
YEP totally agree with you mmbangel! I would never want my mother asks my brother that question from that bus scene no way! I have a brother and my goodness if he looks the way Daryl does with my mother I’m gonna be alarmed! Those longing looks of a hopeless romantic man over a woman he’s pining for is definitely not a son thing. More gearing towards a man romantically attracted to a woman.
Copying and pasting from a post I made months ago:
When Daryl handed Carol the axe to put in Ed’s head it was as an equal, not as a child;
when Daryl heard Carol crying in the night and set out to look for Carol, it wasn’t as a child.
And Carol’s assurance to Dale that Andrea would be safe with Daryl, wasn’t treating him as a son but as a man she knew could protect another strong woman;
When Daryl brought Carol the cherokee rose he was acknowledging her as a mother, giving her hope, but he wasn’t placing himself as a replacement child for her - in a sense he compared himself to her as a parent, by saying he didn’t believe a rose was blooming for Merle;
When Carol visits him in bed she puts him in the place of her dead husband, comparing him as a father to her child - not a sibling;
And Daryl then returns the situation in his rant to her, comparing himself as Sophia’s father and Carol’s dead husband.
When Daryl rescues her from the farm, he doesn’t speak to her like a mother (I ain’t got all day), and in return when she expresses her distrust of RIck and her belief that Daryl deserves better it is as a MAN, not as her child. She says she wants a man of honour to lead her, and she means Daryl. That’s not placing him a son or child.
Then, in Seed, Carol suggests some sexual fooling around and makes wonderfully shameless innuendo. You DON’T do that with someone you see as a son to you.
And no, i don’t think it’s cute and funny for a mother to ask a son - or even someone she sees as a son - if he wants to have sex with her. I’ve never known any mother behave like that, thankfully.
All I took from this, “There are mothers and sons who do flirt around playfully like that. It’s cute and silly” and completely disconnected from this person’s opinion. Because no. Mothers and sons can be silly, mothers and sons can be sweet, mothers and sons don’t make sex jokes about one another. People can decide to see what they want to see, but it’s also clear the writers, by allowing these moments to happen, DO NOT see them as mother and son. Norma and Norman Bates, they are not.